[CDBI] Old announce thread

Matt S Trout dbix-class at trout.me.uk
Tue Feb 28 15:29:20 GMT 2006

On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 01:20:34PM +0000, William Ross wrote:
> On 28 Feb 2006, at 00:15, Tim Bunce wrote:
> >On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 10:04:41AM +0000, Tim Bunce wrote:
> >>On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 01:18:20AM +0000, Matt S Trout wrote:
> >>>http://www.spanner.org/lists/cdbi/2005/07/25/b9f7cc4c.html
> >>>
> >>>which appears to be as much of an archive of the original  
> >>>announce thread as
> >>>I can easily find.
> while snippy, is correct. I've kept that archive going so that people  
> can combine the old and new mailing lists into a single search (and  
> so that I can play with mariachi a bit), and that link will drop you  
> into the middle of the 'easy way out' thread that brought the old  
> mailing list to an end. I really don't want to encourage people to  
> dig up old animosities, though, and I wouldn't recommend that  
> particular thread as a starting point unless you're writing a book  
> about the importance of careful good manners in open source projects  

Well, my comment there wasn't meant to be snippy at all - it was meant to
point out that starting a greenfield project gives you a hell of a lot more
freedom than trying to improve an existing one, and that I considered (and
still do consider) Tony's work on improving CDBI without spannering backwards
compat for users to be nothing short of heroic.

The parts of that thread discussing designing for extensibility and multiple
inheritance are absolutely facinating; the single subthread where it devolved
into a slanging match should simply be glossed over as a bloody good example
of how e-mail communication can go badly wrong and little else.

As for digging up old animosities I've only seen one person try, and that
was as an excuse to pursue a pointless vendetta against one of the participants
so need not be considered relevant.

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